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we brought you on Monday regarding that\h
whistleblower documenting what he says is the\h\h

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evidence that U.S recovered alien spacecrafts and\h
beings despite being told for years all of that\h\h

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was a conspiracy theory independent journalist\h
Michael schellenberger has spoken to a number of\h\h

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military and Intel contractors who say now that\h
the U.S is in fact in possession of 12 or more\h\h

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alien spacecraft schellenberger also writes that\h
the reason the pentagon's new program for studying\h\h

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UFOs has not discovered any verifiable information\h
is because quote they may not want to verify it\h\h

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joining us now Bryce zabel he's the host of\h
the need to know podcast an investigative\h\h

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journalist who covers these issues he was\h
also present for the initial interview with\h\h

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the Whistleblower David grush and has\h
spent some time with them as well Bryce\h\h

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now why might the Pentagon not want to verify\h
this information this is on a night where so\h\h

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many people are raising questions about the\h
veracity and the trustworthiness of all of\h\h

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our ins you know key institutions of government\h
but why would they want and want to verify it\h\h

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well you know the information that we're not alone\h
has always been assumed to be a destabilizing\h\h

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kind of thing Laura so uh on one level they could\h
simply say we're just not ready to deal with this\h\h

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let's continue with the political stuff the back\h
and forth uh on your show tonight I mean this is a\h\h

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pretty interesting night to be talking about this\h
because the politics of the nation are you know\h\h

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on the front page or the front you know the top\h
of the show but at the same time if this is true\h\h

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what whistleblower Dave grush has said then it's\h
the biggest news story of all time ever and so\h\h

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uh I I think if if there is an attempt to try to\h
come clean on this it's been around for 80 years\h\h

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uh I don't know that they have a good plan for\h
it but they're going to probably have to get one\h\h

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how important is this though again getting back\h
to the core point that we've been making all so\h\h

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long tonight sure that we need to believe that our\h
government actually represents our best interests\h\h

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and unless there is a specific incredible National\h
Security reason not to release certain information\h\h

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that after decades and Decades of questions and\h
in sightings and and firsthand Witnesses here\h\h

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how do you how do you not come forward and say\h
this is what we have and this is what we're still\h\h

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investigating how do you not at least do that but\h
you know that's a great question that could have\h\h

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been asked for the last uh 12 presidential\h
administrations I will say this though this\h\h

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is the first time where this issue has been\h
revealing itself to be actually a bipartisan\h\h

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issue you've had the Senate intelligence committee\h
very interested in this and two of the key players\h\h

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in that are Senator Kirsten gillibrand who\h
is a Democrat and Senator Marco Rubio who's\h\h

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a Republican and they probably don't agree on many\h
things but they do agree that we should look into\h\h

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this issue of uh unidentified anomalous phenomena\h
so more power to them and that is exactly what's\h\h

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going to happen now uh these very statements that\h
Dave grush has made have already been made in\h\h

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classified session before many uh to at least two\h
committees in Congress where he specified for over\h\h

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11 hours about this and he's provided names dates\h
programs locations so he's basically challenged\h\h

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the Senate and the house if you want to know\h
more about this I'll tell you where to go look\h\h